Outchurched

Porn and drinking are obvious sin? No way, I don’t buy it… they’re two of God’s best inventions, though they definitely lag behind drugs and premarital sex.

How can some of God’s best work possibly be sinful?

My point is that if you are trying to come across as Christians making a mockery of abusing God’s best work probably doesn’t help your cause.

I’m not trying to come across as anything. I honestly want to be authentic to who I am and what I think and what I’m feeling. I don’t have a cause yet, that’s where we are headed…

I do get the fact that it’s a joke.

What joke are you referring to?

No, porn and drinking are your definitions of “obvious sins.” I’m not kidding about liking porn and alcohol, I do. We drink during the podcast, and I have no objections to it whatsoever. It’s no more the point of the podcast than breathing.

God’s best work isn’t the sin, but the abuse of his best work is.

I seem to recall that according to the Bible and christian dogma that God is the creator of all things.

“1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2) He was with God in the beginning. 3) Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.” John 1:1-3 NIV

God, creator of the Earth.
God, creator of trees.
God, creator of porn.
God, creator of alcohol.
God, creator of cute fuzzy bunnies.

This is the stuff that almost puts me in the “I like God” camp. However, the self-righteous judgemental shit from small-minded “followers of Christ” is why church and the associated bullshit isn’t for me.

Thanks for weighing in as the definite source of where the line between use/abuse of porn/alcohol/Christianity is. Like any intelligent person likely would, I reject your assertion of authority.

My point is that if you are trying to come across as Christians making a mockery of abusing God’s best work probably doesn’t help your cause.

I don’t buy into the thinking that watching porn or drinking are “abusing God’s best work.” I think it’s your method of attempting to frame the conversation in a way that promotes your own view of things, which I view as being self-righteous.

Note to self: seek endorsements from Hustler and Maker’s Mark… especially Maker’s Mark.

In regards to the “trying to come across as Christians” bit:

Fuck you.

Whether or not I or anyone else conforms to your dogma matters absolutely less than a trifle to me. You are not God, nor are you His Voice, regardless of what self-righteous spiritual wheaties you may think you’ve been dieting upon. You don’t decide whether or not I’m “saved” (whatever the fuck that actually means) or “justified” or even “sanctified.” Again, fuck you for picking up the scepter of judgement and proclaiming your judgement forth.

Incase you were wondering. I do get the fact that it’s a joke. I don’t think the joke is funny.

What the fuck are you talking about? Are you asserting that our podcast/blog is a joke? How many times do I have to type “fuck you?”

I don’t give a shit if your sense of humor is so highly refined that you find us crass or offensive. We joke around on the podcast and venture into SarcasmLand periodically, but the three of us value discussing these topics and value having a sounding board with which to pose questions and thoughts. Our intent, from the beginning, was to do this publically so that those who are sympathetic to our thinking might stumble across it and think “fuck, I’m not alone in the world… there are other people willing to bulldoze their way into areas where the angels fear to tread.”

You’re obviously not in this demographic, so I’m a bit puzzled as to why you’d waste our (”if you’re here, and I’m here… isn’t it ‘our’ time”) time commenting. Perhaps you’d be “investing your talents” more wisely by doing something “productive” like handing out Chick Tracts or praying or reading the Bible.

Personally, I’d go drinking and jerk off to porn… I find that to be a more effective release.